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Meh. This episode bugged me a lot. I was worried that it would be a gimmicky episode, and it totally was -- a big pile of very, very predictable plot holes just to introduce the new character (who I'm betting will be the subject of a spinoff at some point. Jenny just screams spinoff to me).

Things that annoyed me:

  • The whole "Everyone needs to be processed!" tissue sample thing at the very start -- and then they conveniently only take a tissue sample from The Doctor.
  • Why would the Tardis not be able to translate the Hath speech?
  • Good Lord, Martha does get herself kidnapped a lot, doesn't she?
  • It's nice how the soldiers come out of the machine with perfect hair and makeup.
I don't normally mind a plot hole here and there, because the general awesomeness of Doctor Who distracts me. This one was just so damned predictable, though! Martha's Hath buddy? Knew he (she?) was going to die saving Martha's life from start. Knew Jenny was going to die, but not really die. Knew the old guy was going to try to kill The Doctor, and knew Jenny would die saving him.

The biggest nitpick, though... there was absolutely no reason for Jenny to be The Doctor's... offspring, I guess... at all, except as another reason for The Doctor to be broody and sad. And as a potential spinoff. That's what struck me as gimmicky -- Jenny would have been the exact same character if she wasn't created from The Doctor's tissue sample, so why bother with all that? Meh.


On the other hand, Donna was, as always, awesome. Love her so very much. I also liked the comments about how very much running is involved in traveling with The Doctor. I loved the bit about the whole civilization only having existed for a week, and I wished they'd spent more time on that, and maybe explained where they came from, and why the whole war thing started.

Oh well, every season has a weak episode -- at least no one ended up a disembodied face on a paving stone this time!

Date: 2008-05-12 07:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bingo-mcdingo.livejournal.com
To be fair, Martha could understand the Hath without problem - watch again and you'll see she's having half of a conversation, so the Tardis translation thingie is working for her.

I also don't think that another spinoff is likely - with Torchwood and The Sara-Jane Adventures already running I don't think we'll be seeing her in her own series. However, I wouldn't be surprised if we see her again sometime during this series (or possibly over the specials next year).

But the rest of your comments I agree with totally. I'm looking forward to next weeks though - looks really interesting, and the more I hear about it, the more intriguing it becomes!

Date: 2008-05-12 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcasticah.livejournal.com
My impression was more that Martha was figuring it out based on... guessing, and body language. Not so much that she understood the Hath, but that she was getting the gist of what it was saying, and vice versa.

Date: 2008-05-12 08:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bingo-mcdingo.livejournal.com
Ah. Now. Yes... thinking back on it, I may be swayed by the fact that on 'Doctor Who Confidential' (do you get that too??) they showed the filming of the scene where Martha fell down a small gentle slope into a murky puddle (sorry, but count me underwhelmed), and there was a director (or minion) shouting out the Hath's lines in perfect English to give Freema her cues. Maybe that's where I got the idea from.

Date: 2008-05-12 08:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcasticah.livejournal.com
Ah yes, the "Help, I have fallen into a shallow puddle and am now utterly helpless!" bit. Argh. (And the Hath is a FISH creature. It couldn't SWIM?!

(Jeff downloads the Confidential, and I watch it on the rare occasions that I remember...)

Date: 2008-05-12 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bingo-mcdingo.livejournal.com
It was v. reminiscent of Sara Jane falling down an even gentler slope in 'The 5 Doctors' and having to be pulled out by the 3rd Doctor using his crap car.

I did think it was a bit swift for you to have seen 'The Doctor's Daughter'. Just out of curiosity, which site do you download them from?

Date: 2008-05-12 08:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sarcasticah.livejournal.com
I... don't know, actually. Jeff does it, I merely wait until it's ready to watch!

Date: 2008-05-12 08:48 pm (UTC)

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